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dave4jackie



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PostSubject: coventry hole   Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:38 pm

how did the hole at coventry happen?it must have been been big for the meeting to be abandoned can't remember stoke ever cancelling because of the state of the track but i could be wrong
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PostSubject: Re: coventry hole   Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:02 pm

dave4jackie wrote:
how did the hole at coventry happen?it must have been been big for the meeting to be abandoned can't remember stoke ever cancelling because of the state of the track but i could be wrong


It wasn't Sky's Speedway "Moley" was it, digging up the place after the Bees went out to Swindon last Monday??????

The mystery continues!!!
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PostSubject: Re: coventry hole   Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:08 pm

was said yesterday that the drains had collasped on turn one you couldnt have raced on it if them tyers hadnt been there they certainly made for some good action alot of damage for the drivers though.we havernt been to cov for 4 years couldnt belive how run down its going cant really see it being there in 5 years time unles someone spends alot of cash there
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PostSubject: Re: coventry hole   Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:49 pm

well well well

three holes in the ground

been away for a while, latvia and brands hatch...

now i'm back thought i'd give my opinions of hole-gate...

what a load of old pony - hells bells something bad happened at a stock car track causing it to be cancelled. get yo asses out to the (good old) u.s. of a and when it rains everyone goes home...

what were the options?

leave a big hole on the inside? make everyone race on the sludge on the outside? or just shut up shop and deal with it overnight.... i think they made the best decision...

a few people are bleating on about stoke and how they never stopped racing... hmm well maybe, but the track (in terms of how long it stayed open) didn't last long, and nobody really enjoyed it (although i'm sure i'll be told i'm wrong) (it wasn't one of my favourites)... and also in those days things were a bit more chilled...

so what would have happened if someone in the crowd got whacked clean in the chops by a lump of rock thrown up from 'the hole' on saturday night? apart from spitting out teeth and being on milkshakes for a month, you can bet you *******'s to a barn dance that there would be some form of claim going in, not to mention the good ol' boys at the HSE sniffing around...

everyone is a hero on stock car forums when it comes to knowing what to do - but i'll bet if they were the stadium manager on saturday night, they'd have been twitching more than a nervous man on national 'lets be nervous' day. i'd really would love to pick a select crew on internet forum nobbers and let them run a stock car meeting - from planning to the race itself, see how they get on...

anyway, as i'm a total genius on everything, i have the solution for any further issues...

bring back mr 422 and dump him into the hole, just like he did at crewe, back in the day...

right, time for my meds...

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PostSubject: Re: coventry hole   Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:01 pm

beaks wrote:
well well well

three holes in the ground

been away for a while, latvia and brands hatch...

now i'm back thought i'd give my opinions of hole-gate...

what a load of old pony - hells bells something bad happened at a stock car track causing it to be cancelled. get yo asses out to the (good old) u.s. of a and when it rains everyone goes home...

what were the options?

leave a big hole on the inside? make everyone race on the sludge on the outside? or just shut up shop and deal with it overnight.... i think they made the best decision...

a few people are bleating on about stoke and how they never stopped racing... hmm well maybe, but the track (in terms of how long it stayed open) didn't last long, and nobody really enjoyed it (although i'm sure i'll be told i'm wrong) (it wasn't one of my favourites)... and also in those days things were a bit more chilled...

so what would have happened if someone in the crowd got whacked clean in the chops by a lump of rock thrown up from 'the hole' on saturday night? apart from spitting out teeth and being on milkshakes for a month, you can bet you *******'s to a barn dance that there would be some form of claim going in, not to mention the good ol' boys at the HSE sniffing around...

everyone is a hero on stock car forums when it comes to knowing what to do - but i'll bet if they were the stadium manager on saturday night, they'd have been twitching more than a nervous man on national 'lets be nervous' day. i'd really would love to pick a select crew on internet forum nobbers and let them run a stock car meeting - from planning to the race itself, see how they get on...

anyway, as i'm a total genius on everything, i have the solution for any further issues...

bring back mr 422 and dump him into the hole, just like he did at crewe, back in the day...

right, time for my meds...

adios

beaks


before everyone jumps down my throat and tells me I shouldnt have an opinion cause I wasnt there I just want to say how come they cancelled the meeting after the Consolations but then it was ok for the rebels to come on and race after it had been said the track was a no go? bit harsh! what kind of message does that send out to them - and I didnt need to be there to be asking this question!

also beaks dont think giving your opinion is saying that you could do better than the people that were running the show and it wasnt one of those things that probably could have been forseen, but you saying that people know best etc does that mean that Andy Smith should know better than the promotors etc because thats what it all boiled down to at the saturday meeting?? And finally before my soap box turns into suds I sometimes think that if you did put a team of 'fans' together that they could probably do a good job of running a meeting from start to finish

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PostSubject: Re: coventry hole   Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:21 pm

The hole on saturday was one of those situations the rebels run there final because they were not on sunday.The problem sunday was dust why water the track before its all been cleared and cars on track by the time the cars were lined up it had dried up as for the fans running a meeting all for it be an interesting project
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PostSubject: Re: coventry hole   Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:43 pm

jane wrote:


also beaks dont think giving your opinion is saying that you could do better than the people that were running the show and it wasnt one of those things that probably could have been forseen, but you saying that people know best etc does that mean that Andy Smith should know better than the promotors etc because thats what it all boiled down to at the saturday meeting?? And finally before my soap box turns into suds I sometimes think that if you did put a team of 'fans' together that they could probably do a good job of running a meeting from start to finish

ok finished
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ok...

i'm not saying i know better, i don't...

the point that i'm trying to make is that people often become an instant expert when sat in an armchair, or the day or so after the incident...

i know for a fact that there are a few very smart people on these forums, but a lot of people do seem to get over excited with there comments on internet forums... which is why i put my comment on setting up an a-team of internet nobbers to see how they get on...

i'm sure andy smith and every other driver out there has a valid opinion, but ultimately it isn't the wild west, and the stadium management are ultimately responsible for the H and S of the drivers, along with the paying public - there is so many things that have to be dealt with... so i stand by my opinion (which is just that)

to be honest, these forums are still doing more harm than good... they're good for a laugh and very good for the social side... but i still feel like they're dragging the sport down...

this may come as no surprise to some, and maybe unwelcome to others... but i'm afraid until we stop this kind of hysteria... we're hammering in nails into the sport with a dirty great sledgehammer y'all...

that's me done, over and out

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PostSubject: Re: coventry hole   Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:58 pm

aimed at nobody in particular..

there was a hole

there was dust

no one was hurt

get over it.


My opinion for what its worth: it would have been nice gesture to refund the saturday entry cost or at least handed out £10 discount to another meeting, bear in mind many people may have travelled a long way just for the Saturday

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PostSubject: Re: coventry hole   Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:01 pm

To be fair jane the rebels are a lot lighter and did'nt dig out the hole like the v8's and the f1's did. therefore the rebels final was the one to run as they had waited for there final since 7.15.

As for the running of the meeting,there is decades of experience on the terrace's so dont knock the opinions, people.

my gripe with cov is when there is a 5 min stoppage, they still leave cars on track,the tractors stay parked up, dumb, waste of time and damage to parked cars,and a danger to cars still racing. i saw this early season,and also on sat,Cov should be the heart sole and the way things should be done, a place for other tracks to learn from,and to aim for,,,But it seems to me its being run by amateur's.

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PostSubject: Re: coventry hole   Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:47 pm

i agree it doesent seem to be run by the cleverest of people good job fws was there yesterday lending a hand every time the fence went down the men in orange just looked at each other. i think what happenend sat with the track was totally out of covs hands i only went sun and the state of the track you couldnt race on that not with holes like that just asking for trouble
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PostSubject: Re: coventry hole   Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:25 pm

When it boils down to the finer points, no matter what cov (or any track/promotion in the same situation) chose to do they would still get a battering from fans.
If they had raced on, would they have got slaughtered for letting the gods that are F1s race on a dangerous track or like they chose to do ended it how it did on Sat night. Damned if you and damned if you don't situation.
It does my head in time and time again that the % of the armchair brigade that choose to say i have watch this sport for years and in my day blah blah blah blah blah that they have this god given right to slaughter a promotion for anything. it will be something else next month and something else the month after. they go on and on about how the promoters don't advertise this so called great sport of ours! well aren't you surprised with some of the fans??? they think its ok to slate anybody who promotes the sport. they act like royality when coming through the gates and make themselves a complete nightmare to deal with? no wonder its not popular. i hate sharing the stands with these people so why the hell should we expect newcomers to want to stay with the sport with fans like these?
anyway i digress from my main point. IT WAS A HOLE! GET A GRIP! it happened! GET OVER IT! the promotion did the best they could to keep the meeting running as long as possible to give the spectators some entertainment. then the next day it was dusty!!! OH MY GOD! ITS SHALE! WHAT DO YOU EXPECT!!!!! ERRRRR HELLO!!!??? what is wrong with these people!!!! Go Watch at a Tarmac Track it doesn't take a genius to work that one out!

Anyway for what its worth ( if your still reading my post after this) a lot of fans do great things for this sport that go unmentioned and do deserve a pat on the back - like Fans Tyee Fund, and this great forum which allows me to rant like this (hopefully) also contribute to meetings like the Question of Stox thingy at the F1 World with the Smiths versus the Wainmans that was quite funny to listen to.

anyways rant over

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PostSubject: Re: coventry hole   Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:30 pm

Just a thought on why Andy Smith was consulted, I didn't go so can't confirm, but maybe he was the only member of the BSCDA board present?

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