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 Mega Idea....but will it work?

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andy11



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PostSubject: Re: Mega Idea....but will it work?   Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:11 pm

Sorry chris 53 but if you and others feel the need to keep you own points tally then points updates can't be that freely available or you wouldn't bother doing your own . A bang upto date points chart "spoonfed" to all on stoxnet or allstox would generate more interest and that can only be good for the sport. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Mega Idea....but will it work?   Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:46 pm

It's old hat, I've been comparing football scores and league tables with F1 stockcars for years, you're floggin' a dead horse.
Maybe the BriSCA appointed points compiler does it at his/her leisure throughout the week and doesn't want to share the information for some reason? Maybe he/she is not computer literate, who knows? The official BriSCA F1 points listing is more secretive than the next Harry Potter book.
It's not a very professional way to project the sport though.
Nobody outside the sport even knows there are grades and points and championships, the image of smashed up bomber cars cars going round and round a mud heap for a laugh then going home until next time, will live on.
We got the results sorted out on here and Stöxnyët over the last 4 years, maybe a team effort and we can bottom this as well? I'll provide any webspace required for publishing free. I'll even build a dedicated webpage. Hey, maybe BriSCA could sponsor it.......whoops, got carried away.
Like Carl says though there are often variables, but maybe it's just one driver number thats in the wrong place, maybe it's the odd point that is erroneous occasionally.
Anything is better than nothing.
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PostSubject: Re: Mega Idea....but will it work?   Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:11 am

Apologies to Andy11 and Zep - afraid I'm really missing the point of this one. Like I said previously, Carl has his points updated hours after a meeting ends, the BRISCA website has points updated usually by Tuesday after any weekend - so I'm not sure what we're missing????

Until Carl produced his Points Calculator, I personally posted a NS Points update after every meeting. These days, I just compare my manual calculations with Carl' s system generated ones, to make sure there are no mistakes either side. What problem am I missing - that the latest scores are not available, or that they are just not available from the 'official' sources fast enough??
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PostSubject: Re: Mega Idea....but will it work?   Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:12 am

here are the top 10 for the NS
Final Positions
1. 515 Frankie Wainman 1201 JJ
2. 1 Stuart Smith 938 SJ
3. 391 Andrew Smith 788 JJ
4. 2 Paul Harrison 755 JJ
5. 16 Matt Newson 575 JJ
6. 259 Paul Hines 553
7. 21 Mark Gilbank 534
8. 4 Dan Johnson 388 JJ
9. 84 Tom Harris 349 JJ
10. 55 Craig Finnikin 333 JJ

As stated the Brisca site just been updated

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Carl H



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PostSubject: Re: Mega Idea....but will it work?   Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:08 am

Is this not good enough, then? Crying or Very sad

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Idea....but will it work?   Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:28 am

Thanks its perfect. Clear and Precise. Its now bookmarked

At the end of the day its Stockcar racing...who care's about points lol!
(unless of course there's one point in it at the end of the season) Very Happy

One thing. could you put a small 'Date updated' at top of each table.
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PostSubject: Re: Mega Idea....but will it work?   Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:36 am

The official Grader/ statistician is Mr Barry Tempest who does a superb and concise job with every bit of statistical information and supplies the BSCDA newsletter, magazines and individual promoters, usually as early as a Monday morning following the day befores' point scores with various points tables such as Driver of the Month, NS, etc, etc which generally appear in the following weeks programmes and publications.

I am sure that arrangements can be made to improve the distribution of these for 2009.
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Carl H



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PostSubject: Re: Mega Idea....but will it work?   Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:53 am

chris 20 wrote:
Thanks its perfect. Clear and Precise. Its now bookmarked.

Bear in mind that's the 2008 season. Next year will be a different address.

chris 20 wrote:
who care's about points lol! .

LOL! Tens of thousands this season. I had to increase my web hosting package to cope with the amount of views. But judging by some of the posts in this thread, perhaps I didn't publicise them as well as I should have. Sad

chris 20 wrote:

One thing. could you put a small 'Date updated' at top of each table.

Yep, that's on my list of planned improvements for next year. I'm also going to make each score in each column clickable, and maybe one page for each driver. At the moment, if you click on any score in the Points column, it takes you to the appropriate place in this chart for a breakdown. I'd like to increase this to having a chart for everything, so you can see a full list of race wins, points scored on tarmac and shale, etc.

There's already a chart for Averages here

steven wrote:
The official Grader/ statistician is Mr Barry Tempest who does a superb and concise job

Indeed he does. Steve, do you happen to know if he works all the points out by hand?

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Idea....but will it work?   Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:59 am

As Chris53 has pointed out, following the last few rounds of the NS, I've checked the official BriSCA website and found the updated points within 48 hours of the meeting.

I think that because of the internet, we expect updated points charts to appear almost as soon as the reds are shown on the GN.

This is still an amatuer sport and relies upon the voluntary efforts of others to keep it running. That would explain why poinst charts take little time to be updated on the web.
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PostSubject: Re: Mega Idea....but will it work?   Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:04 am

wolfysmith wrote:
I think that because of the internet, we expect updated points charts to appear almost as soon as the reds are shown on the GN.


My personal best is six minutes after the GN result was posted on a forum. study

I've been optomising the software and I reckon I get that down to a minute now. Very Happy

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