think he saloons raced on f1 world final before at coventy and got 40 ish cars if memory severs me right

How is a date at Coventry going to help save Tar racing for the loons, also Cov would need lots of cars on track.

I have always thought that given the same number of cars, the racing was much better on tar but in truth its been going downhill since the end of the hatchbacks. Not helped by the loss of some smaller tar tracks like Newton Abbott and Aldershot which could put on good racing even with a small turnout.

All the areas of the country that run saloons seem to have lots of classes for basic racing, rookies,prostox, ect, in my opinion saloons are now too big a jump for this pool of prospective drivers.

A more simple fun oriantated policy would be of benefit, now it seems all about trophys and being the fastest.

Would some kind of tar masters series with the points being scored on a multiplier basis throughout the year help ? I am thinking maybe 8 rounds at non championship./ 7.3 meetings. If the lower graders feel outclassed then racing in a series where their white and yellow grade points are x4 and x3 might just be of interest.

i think in the current times all formulas are going to be down on numbers next year so adding more tracks with more meetings is not the answer at this present time

there is new rules for 2010 min height ect... should be announced soon will bring racing back to being great

F2s tried and were unsuccesful at that.Possibly ban slicks but all that will mean is people buying new treaded tyres and buffing them down to about 1mm tread to use.Also think its going to be a struggle tofind a tyre to replace the avon judging by the tyres i tested sunday as the maximilers i used were awful alhough it was wet the car was 2 secs a lap slower.

Taken from my news letter recieved today.
The Saloon Stock Car Association recently met to discuss the rules for 2010 and beyond.Of major concern to the association is the declining numbers for race meetings at tarmac venues,and the apparent growing divide between racing on shale and tarmac.There appear to be very few drivers who have a single,dual surface car.

Consequently,the car specification rules have been overhauled with a view to implementing changes for 2010,2011 and 2012.These changes are aimed at moving towards a more standard car,eliminating some of the "trick" componants found on low-slung tarmac cars,eradicating the imbalance of inside weight distribution and reducing overall expense.

By the end of october, the saloon stock association will endeavour to release completed rules for 2010.Early notfication of rule changes for 2010 are listed below.In the meantime more fact-finding,investigative and exploratory work will be carried outand a full list of rule changes for the coming 3 years will be detailed to each driver by the end of October.

1.CARS AND BODIES
The car bodywork rulings for 2010,as noted in 2009 rules,will be implemented i.e original boot, bonnet,tops of wings,tops of doors,roof,etc,from 150mm below lower window apperature and upwards.
A maximum weight of 1300kg will be introduced.
An inside weight percentage rule will be introduced.

3.SUSPENSION
All cars must achieve a minimum ground clearence,between the wheels of 3".This will be checked by rolling a pipeunder the car from one side to the other.
Each car will be permitted one standardstrut/shock absorber,for each wheel/corner of the car.
Extra shock absorbers (like the Avo f2-style) will no longer be permitted.
Front struts must be mounted in original position-details to follow.
No multi hole adjustment permitted on rear wishbone mountings.

11.TYRES
The avon 7.3 tyre will remain as the principal tyre for another season,BUT THERE WILL BE A COMPLETE BAN ON TYRE SOFTENER.
The saloon stock assocation are still currently testing tyres with a view to additional tyre options for 2010,and a possible tyre change for 2011.
The yokohama A048 will not be acceptable as a "starter" tyre for White/Yellow grade drivers.

16.FUEL SYSTEM
All fuel lines must be clipped securely,and routed away from electrics.
The fuel tank,with a maximum 2 gallon capacity,is to be positioned along the centre line of the car,and on top of the chassis,in the boot area.
The fitting of a non-retuen valve will be compulsory.

All in all i dont think to bad a attempt although i do think banning of softener is not a way of reducing costs.I post this to get other peoples views and opinions.

here there are a lot of unhappy drivers though phil?
perhaps the drivers need a meeting with the promoters to discuss the rule changes?

Which would of course mean a lot of travelling to the meeting from the three totally seperate regions of tar !!

How about a survey sent out to all current and recently retired driver to at least gauge opinion ?