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PostSubject: Re: Coventry doomed rumour   Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:52 pm

Sorry for the slow reply Steve.
steven wrote:
Grafter, what on earth would you expect BriSCA and ORCi to actually do ?I would have hoped that with the cooperation of Sandhu and yours and Mr Heavers close working relationship,  that a statment could have been made that an offer from a outside interest had been received for the site and that a counter offer from a fans and drivers syndicate would need to be offerd to secure the stadiums future. Failing that a statement saying why the stadium would be better off being sold to another party They do not own the stadium. BriSCA / ORCi will support any promoter / track owner to the very best of it's ability if requested. It cannot however work on an 'emotional' basis and 'interfere' with other individuals business interests which in this case are quite complex.

Jeremy, backed by Sandhu has worked extremely hard in trying to find sites, which remains ongoing and a lot of this for due process reasons has to be 'behind' closed doors for confidentiality reasons.openness can bring in more ideas/leads, where needed, if done correctly They also have to walk a 'tightrope' media wise at what they can divest. Mr Sandhu is the man in charge, I personally spoke with him last month as he came along to our April meeting and you could not ask to meet a more sincere and committed individual, the man is a gentleman and it genuinely is his intention to find a replacement site.

My knowledge is limited as a party with vested interests as we too run events at Coventry, personally I trust in Mr Sandhu and from the same personal perspective would certainly not interrogate or even interfere in his business interests particularly at the moment being in the media spotlight, far too much actually being said that can also be prejudicial to confidentiality. Mr Sandhu needs encouragement, not negative and speculative critique as it could be counter productive/agreed but Sandhu is/was a landlord and not a promotor and as such any new site he aquires will still leave the sport with another rented venue and not the security of a wholly owned venue to invest in.......renting is dead money

The future will develop and will be what it will be. Speedway and Stock Car fans with input from Coventry Stadium have engineered a very high profile campaign which has ensured it has the profile it requires from that perspective. It is not dissimilar to Wimbledon, Spedeworth would have had whatever supported it needed but again a difficult situation including landlords / tenants [ GRA ] and Spedeworth and there are a number of parties with different interests and life just isn't that simple - as i believe Cllr Stokes relayed at the most recent meeting.

It would be a matter of public record that the stadium was on the open market at the point of Mr Sandhu purchasing it, there was an opportunity for it to be purchased then by any individual. That opportunity also arose in the more recent past. The opportunity has been there for any promoter or private purchaser to step in - They didn't and there would be sound reasons for that, in part it's viability as a motor sports only stadium. Mr Sandhu invested to try and establish Greyhound racing which is the main revenue stream at venues such as Belle Vue and Sheffield and without which the stadiums would be redeveloped as they would not be viable to run motor sport alone.so the likes of Skegness/Cowdenbeath/Northampton ect. are running at a loss and only run on the promotors charitable good will? There is a need for a little more trust and importantly respect for individuals efforts, it is not all one sided. All matters which have huge commercial aspects cannot have the transparency everyone may desire, fact of life.
very tue but resect is earned and degree of openness is needed to achieve this
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PostSubject: Re: Coventry doomed rumour   Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:05 am

The silence is deafening........
Anyway it looks like it will be just 2 more weeks until we all get an answer to Coventry's stay of exacution or not https://m.facebook.com/groups/782314215165389?view=permalink&id=1135063546557119&refid=18&_ft_=qid.6302494823213961151%3Amf_story_key.1135063546557119%3Atl_objid.1135063546557119
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PostSubject: Re: Coventry doomed rumour   Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:09 am

Well only one more week and we might know the final outcome.
Such a shame that the site could not have been offered to the stadium supporters first.........with over 5,000 signatures on the the petition (and not everyone has access or knowledge of it) makes that an average investment of around £500 per signer (going on the mentioned sale price of a 2.77 million pounds).
But there appears to to be a hidden agenda that stopped this????
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PostSubject: Re: Coventry doomed rumour   Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:19 pm

Well a reprieve for at least a year appears to be the final decision....well done to all those who signed petition and helped in any way. https://m.facebook.com/groups/782314215165389
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PostSubject: Re: Coventry doomed rumour   Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:05 pm

And still it drags on https://coventryobserver.co.uk/news/brandon-estates-confirm-no-parties-involved-in-talks-amid-crime-scene-coventry-stadium-situation/
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PostSubject: Re: Coventry doomed rumour   Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:10 am

What a mess. It now appears that an un named representative of Coventry racing club (which Sandhu owns) has alienated the new owners Brandon estates by calling them incompetent and untrustworthy and Mr Horton (who has signed the head lease with Brandon estates) a liar.  https://coventryobserver.co.uk/news/coventry-racing-club-confirms-contractors-are-ready-to-return-speedway-venue-to-its-original-state/
On top of all this Sandhu still has a few businesses registering the stadium as their trading address  https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/Sl90rVSF_JgaXzcPanyYJws_lVU/appointments
All very strange as he is no longer the owner of the site......
On a more positive note, would it be worth teaming up with this place for a new track (if they are interested). http://heartofengland.co.uk/about/facilities/ set in 160 açres they could possibly fit one in a corner as I'm sure the present stadium site is less than 15 acres total.
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PostSubject: Re: Coventry doomed rumour   Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:04 pm

There's a topic on Stoxnet at the moment titled-
"Crewe Stadium Memories"........ How long before we see a -"Coventry Stadium Memories".... affraid ...
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PostSubject: Re: Coventry doomed rumour   Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:01 pm

Jeremy Heaver is still a round...... https://m.facebook.com/groups/782314215165389
It seems he wants to make an alternative venue his plan A but history alone means he is "trying" to keep Coventry limping along a bit longer.
All seems a bit odd that Sandhu (who held all the cards until he sold the site to ???) is trying to help negotiate a short term future when he could have written this into the terms of sale. It all comes across as either being amateurish or one big smokescreen.
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PostSubject: Re: Coventry doomed rumour   Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:52 pm

A cynic like me- would reckon that 'Plan B' has now got an airing the tactics will now be to blame it all on someone else who aint able to defend himself, claim your just as staggered as anyone else why Mr Horton would do this to the Stockcar family, despite stripping the place bare and selling the goods while Mr Horton is out of the country resulting in him calling in the police scratch ... Meanwhile continuing to claim how badly Mr Horton has treated us all and were gonna fight to the end for you, so that no-one will boycott us next year when we revert to the turd that is gonna be Plan B.. Cos just remember, Were on your side!!...
Lololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololo- repeat to fade..
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PostSubject: Re: Coventry doomed rumour   Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:36 pm

Well the alternative venue that is plan "b" is looking like my old favourite of 7 years ago        http://allstoxforum.niceboard.com/t5293-donnington-park
Took a quick look earlier today and it appears there is some work being undertaken on turn 2 (Hollywood) infield area. There would be good access from the far end of where the defunct Sunday market used to take place along with extensive parking and pit space (access gate already in place).....I will keep an eye on developments.
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PostSubject: Re: Coventry doomed rumour   Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:32 pm

Donington Park have just done a deal with MSV to lease it for at least the next 21 years and the new owners are already talking of exciting new events???  http://www.pitpass.com/58136/Palmers-MotorSport-Vision-acquires-Donington  

Another of their acquisitions is here  http://www.evo.co.uk/news/16939/msv-to-build-new-race-circuit-and-motorsport-complex-in-france  and this also incorporates a 1000m oval (the new Baarlo?) and also a smaller dirt oval.
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PostSubject: Re: Coventry doomed rumour   Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:28 pm

How time flies, it doesn't seem 5 minutes since JH was telling us this.....

Posted 25 July 2013 - 10:31 AM
Coventry Stadium Press Release

Further to our previous announcement regarding the sale of the freehold for the Coventry Stadium site and continued press speculation we would like to make the following statement.

The freehold remains available for sale and whilst we have had several parties show interest in securing the freehold for the site only one has continued to show interest given the existing leases for speedway, greyhounds and stock cars. The confidential nature of negotiations needs to be maintained as such we will not confirm or release the details of the potential buyer however to stop further speculation from fans of the various sports which take place in the stadium these will all continue to operate at the Brandon site until 2023 and hopefully well beyond that date.
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PostSubject: Re: Coventry doomed rumour   Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:40 pm

Well it seems it's now the eleventh hour and make or break time.
Just had a quick look to see if planning has been applied for yet on the site and found this instead.....
https://www.rugby.gov.uk/downloads/file/1075/call_for_sites_register_2016 just download the pdf and you will see what sites are being looked at around Rugby borough by the council. Line S16/044 shows Brandon stadium agent and who's in charge (Framptons and Louise Steele in this instance). Also just across the road at the old garden centre S16/037 we have Oxalis planning and Steve Harley, most likely trying to develope for housing also (maybe Dave Wayne might recall him from when he worked for Notts planning department?).
From S16/079 on there are a number of sites which Rugby borough councill has their own interest in also...suitable for a new stadium?? Nah.
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PostSubject: Re: Coventry doomed rumour   Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:11 am

Well it's all but over for Brandon but the site is still there. So just time for one last question.
Sahdu had previously told fans and drivers he would not sell the site until a new track was up and running. He held all the cards up until he sold out to Investin Brandon without having any guarantee in place to keep racing there until this new track was ready. It has also been said that Sandhu has no connection with the new owners and relations with them are bad after the removal of fixtures and fittings from the stadium.
So how come Anthony John Copeland director of the original Investin Brandon https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08866112/officers (before the company relocated to Jersey where directors are not named); is also a director of First House Associates ltd....along with Avtar Sandhu https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08894227/officers
I bet their boardroom meetings are a bit uncomfortable scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Coventry doomed rumour   Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:36 pm

Well p,an "B" is taking shape (if "B" is for balls up). Lets think of the worst time of day and time of year to run F1's on shale......on a hot summers afternoon in daylight! These big V8's will be boiling their tappets off and creating dust storms to challenge the Sahara desert! And to round the year off they get sent to Stoke.....lets hope its not a tad damp eh?
It's time to stop wasting money on renting stadia and get a grip on reality. The sport needs a secure wholly owed track/tracks that will give drivers the confidence to invest in time and equipment.
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PostSubject: Re: Coventry doomed rumour   Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:45 am

And still it rumbles on..... http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/no-return-bees-brandon-stadium-12803785#ICID=Android_CoventryTelegraphNewsApp_AppShare
Lets hope that the goods from Coventry are found to have been removed legally or we might see the Stoke track being dug up and handed back!
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