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Grafter



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PostSubject: When's a ban not a ban.....   Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:36 pm

..... when its a Harrison indiscretion. Well I for one ain't the least bit bothered if Messrs Harrison return to F1 or not, just so long as they enjoy themselves without getting in anyones face.
What does niggle me though is the precedent which has now been set and the boundaries which have become blurred.....what rule has been broken and how can others not fall by the same punishment (if thats what it is). If this is to serve as an example to others then I feel some basic facts should be made available to other drivers at least and so avoid a possible repeat.
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PostSubject: Re: When's a ban not a ban.....   Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:19 pm

Yes it is an odd one as hes not banned but had his licence stopped wonder how many other drvers will use this as an example so they can race another formula as if your banned you cannot race at any track be it orc or not which was a good idea as a ban regardless of what it was for is still a ban and you shouldn't be allowed to race
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PostSubject: Re: When's a ban not a ban.....   Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:48 pm

Not really a precedent or any different to whats happened for years in other formulas. Many drivers have had bans for non contact formulas but are still allowed to race in contact formulas, same other way round banned in contact (F1's) but still be allowed to race non contact (Modifieds).

You can have your licence revoked at Spedeworth for instance, but still be allowed to race at other ORC tracks.

Brisca rules state "drivers will be dealt with on a case by case manner" so whatever Mr. Harrison is judged to have done will not necessary apply to another driver. Rulebook also include 5 pages on misconduct, penalties and bans
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PostSubject: Re: When's a ban not a ban.....   Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:42 pm

Errmm - It isnt neccasarily what Ryan has or hasnt done that ultimatly brought this about - there were a number of different people and elements involved in the decision and shall we say that Ryans licence was "Revoked" more for his own protection from a growing tide of discent as opposed to a single event.

Please note that Ryan will go to UK Mods fully prepared (new cars, spare packages and an exploritary trip to the US this coming week!) and that UK Mods is run under the startrax banner, Mr Rees is also on the BMB and deals with the disciplinary side of the sport..
Do you think he would ban a driver from one sport he is involved in and then welcome him into another he runs...

There are a lot of whys and wherefores in this episode, a lot of "behind the scenes" stuff - im not playing secret squirrel and im all for the sport being open and publicising its decisions but in this case id say its best for all concerned if its left as it is now and we move on.
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PostSubject: Re: When's a ban not a ban.....   Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:42 am

It all appears badly handled to myself. What we have is a guy who must want to race F1's (otherwise there would be no need to revoke his licence). But the chap in charge of disciplines appears to not want him banned......but at the same time he wants to grow his own formula of Modifieds. To some this may appear to be a conflict of interests but others may call it a work of business genius.
A alternative way of handling this would have been to take him aside and say "look, we don't want to ban you but we will if you don't take a year out. So just make an announcement that you are taking a sabbatical from F1's and want to try something new".
There have been other drivers in the past where similar things have allegedly happened. Barry Heath springs to mind but was not banned. Also prior to his current ban (now expired?)Neil Shenton took time out.
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PostSubject: Re: When's a ban not a ban.....   Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:07 pm

And this is why we need an official statement from brisca f1 or bmb or bsdca. Brisca f2 manage to announce disaplinary matter and they have around 500 drivers but an organisation that has around 100 is not or WILL NOT keep the paying spectators up to date.
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PostSubject: Re: When's a ban not a ban.....   Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:55 pm

My thinking, and I may be wrong is that he would have been banned if the crime was something which occurred whilst he was racing or indeed on track in his race car.

Could it be that the crime was something which the powers that be feel had to be dealt with but actually occurred outside the racing remit.
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