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doyley



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PostSubject: tyres can some one explain please.   Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:52 pm

I dont understand about the tyres that f1 use.Is the hoosier the only brand that is allowed.The reason i ask is that in the seventies a certain 3 time world champion use to have his tyres remoulded by my brother.He worked for a remould firm in hertfordshire.He use to recap them as slicks and some as rally treads,and boy his car was fast.Would this work now? Is there any alternatives or some one who could do this now?Information would be appreciated and interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: tyres can some one explain please.   Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:09 pm

I think there would be too many variables to have a control tyre that is a re-mould. You would have to be sure that all the casings were identicle along with compound to ensure there was no advantage to be gained/lost. Then you would have to guarantee a constant supply. I'm not saying the tyres would not work but there would be a lot of hurdles to overcome.
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PostSubject: Re: tyres can some one explain please.   Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:32 pm

Oh no, was Chisholm cheating ???!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: tyres can some one explain please.   Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:52 pm

Autograss run on remoulds from two suppliers with only specified compounds and treads, the major issue at the moment is some tyre sizes are few and far between for remoulding so tyres are having to be bought brand new then remoulded so obviously upping the costs
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PostSubject: Re: tyres can some one explain please.   Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:23 pm

carlton wrote:
Oh no, was Chisholm cheating ???!!!!!!

I don't remember any rules about tyres in the seventies, except that they couldn't be 'racing tyres'. Then they had an experiment with exactly that at one of the big tracks like Brands or Snetterton, and I recall seeing a photo of Denis Driscoll's Fiat bodied car with these then unnaturally fat tyres on. (Unnatural for the time). I can't remember whether it was a test day, a 'free tyre choice' meeting, or what.

Whatever, Chissy wasn't a cheat! Before Hoosiers, didn't FWS use and sell remoulds? They can't have been outlawed at the time.
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PostSubject: Re: tyres can some one explain please.   Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:48 am

It might be worth trying to re-mould the worn out Hoosiers and then allowing them in just non world qualifiers/championship races? At least they would have control of the quality of casings and it would be a bit "greener"
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PostSubject: Re: tyres can some one explain please.   Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:49 am

carlton wrote:
Oh no, was Chisholm cheating ???!!!!!!



dont go off the thread mate lol! any way you ran what you brang back then. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: tyres can some one explain please.   Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:25 pm

[quote="doyley"]
carlton wrote:
Oh no, was Chisholm cheating ???!!!!!!



dont go off the thread mate lol! any way you ran what you brang back then. lol![/quote

I used to live near chissy, and raced against him, he didn't need to cheat, he's a natural.
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PostSubject: Re: tyres can some one explain please.   Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:24 pm

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Before Hoosiers, didn't FWS use and sell remoulds?


Yes he did, I know we had a few from him, though they didn't seem quite as good as a worn 820. Frank also used to get tyres repaired if they had sidewall damage, but Hoosiers probably have too thin a sidewall to do that.
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PostSubject: Re: tyres can some one explain please.   Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:40 pm

Grafter wrote:
It might be worth trying to re-mould the worn out Hoosiers and then allowing them in just non world qualifiers/championship races? At least they would have control of the quality of casings and it would be a bit "greener"


As graham said, would be near impossible to remould hooziers, as they are 2 ply and very weak side walls.
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PostSubject: Re: tyres can some one explain please.   Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:02 am

cheers friends for this info,so is the hoosier the only tyre that is allowed?

and could we not go off on to other topics on this thread. dave chisholm was not cheating.in the 70s many drivers had remoulded tyres.there were no rules against it back then.sorry but chissy is a friend so lets not start ok Evil or Very Mad think before you say anything daft as this ruins the forum.
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PostSubject: Re: tyres can some one explain please.   Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:07 am

well put doyley. I don't know what the current rule is on tyres but it used to be a mix of Hoosiers and rally tyres (of a maximum size) plus the out dated town and country size tyres that no one can understand why they were still in the rule book.
Could some one who really knows about remoulds please explain why a Hoosier can not be remoulded? I would of thought that if you had the right size mould then it would be no different to any other tyre scratch
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